Pre-Holiday Sale: 20% off STF-3 and STF-2

[Pete_Hsu]

Good morning to everyone,

We are happy to announce our Pre-Holiday Sale:

1) 20% off STF-3 (in black).
Final price = $479 + $53 shipping = $532 shipped
http://www.hsustore.com/stf3.html


2) 20% off STF-2 (in black or silver).
Final price = $319 + $27 shipping = $346 shipped
http://www.hsustore.com/stf2.html

Enjoy!

Your truly,

[Raptor 22]

Can we expect any other product lines being discounted, VTF-3 for example?

[ThomasV]

How long will this holiday sale last?

[gov]

does this mean that the stf series is being discontinued??? i ask since it is listed as a clearance sale when added to your cart.

[Pete_Hsu]

Note that this is our "Pre" holiday sale. Think of it as an inventory clearance sale, and a great chance to get a rock bottom price. As for all of the other questions, all will be clear very soon my friends.

I must say that these prices are quite impressive. With the STF-3 discount, one is getting near VTF-3 Mk2 performance for a price just north of a VTF-2 Mk2, and one can convert their subwoofer to fixed extended bass mode (ie. same 18Hz extension as VTF-3 Mk2) at any time down the road for a small $50 fee if they call us. With the STF-2 discount, one is getting near VTF-2 Mk2 performance for a price just north of an STF-1!

Sincerely,

[gotchaforce]

not that impressive for those of us in cali, its basically 12% off :(

then + shipping

and if i want max extension its another $50

i haaaaate sales tax

[cschang]

but if you are in the LA area, and/or willing to drive to Hsu, you don't need to worry about shipping. :)

[xcjago]

gotchaforce, it's still 20% off. You can't compare regular price w/o tax vs. sale price w/tax.

[Pete_Hsu]

Good points everyone. Also, an STF-3 + 20% discount + $50 for extended bass mode (purely optional, as one can get improved extension and performance at 20Hz on the stock STF-3 by simply using a port plug with no amplifier modification for $15 shipped) is still much cheaper than a VTF-3 Mk2.

Sincerely,

[marsalabe]

Good points everyone. Also, an STF-3 + 20% discount + $50 for extended bass mode (purely optional, as one can get improved extension and performance at 20Hz on the stock STF-3 by simply using a $5 port plug with no amplifier modification) is still much cheaper than a VTF-3 Mk2.

If you live in California, we might be able to give you a discount on shipping. Feel free to give us a call and inquire about that.

Sincerely,

Peter,

I didn't know there was a $50 extended bass mode option for the STF-3. Is this a built-in modification that essentially makes it a VTF? Or is it a type of Turbo Charger? :confused:

- Blake

[DNelms]

Peter,

I didn't know there was a $50 extended bass mode option for the STF-3. Is this a built-in modification that essentially makes it a VTF? Or is it a type of Turbo Charger? :confused:

- Blake

I believe it is a modification to the amplifier. It is still a STF (Set Tuned Frequency) it is now just set for maximum extention (low bass output) not maximum excursion ( high output).

I am actually going to do this to the amp on my STF but I have not had the chance yet. I like my bass deep and smooth not loud and overpowering.

I hope I got that right. My head cold is really making me feel loopy.:rolleyes:

[marsalabe]

Thanks, DNelms. I realized after the fact that I can't get it anyway. I'm at an APO address, all of which have a 70 lb. weight limit (the STF-3 is 78 lbs.). I had previously wanted the VTF-2, and at 57 lbs. it fits the bill.

[DNelms]

Thanks, DNelms. I realized after the fact that I can't get it anyway. I'm at an APO address, all of which have a 70 lb. weight limit (the STF-3 is 78 lbs.). I had previously wanted the VTF-2, and at 57 lbs. it fits the bill.

The VTF-2 is a great little brother to the 3. You will not be dissapointed. One of my god friends has the VTF-2 and he has a large room and his wife is always telling him to turn down the sub!

[jfields41394]

Peter Marks, I just called HSU and tried to order the STF-2. I informed them that you indicated they might cut the cost of Shipping if I live in California, and they were not aware of this, and were not able to do it for me. Bummer. I still bought the product, but i just wanted to give you a heads up.

[Pete_Hsu]

It was worth a try! It seems that shipping of relatively large packages to any destination is expensive, so there is no realistic way we could offer such a thing, especially on a clearance item that is heavily discounted. On the bright side, shipping for STF-2 is relatively low in the first place.

Thanks for ordering, you have taken advantage of one great deal! Let us know if we can assist in any way!

Sincerely,

[gotchaforce]

ehh i guess if i didnt get the maximum extension it would only be $573 after tax and shipping for the STF3 (jfields didnt get it for the stf2 not really sure if they will do it for STF3)

peter, how long does it usually take you guys to ship from san diego to san jose?

ill be honest, i am swaying towards this:
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=2_41&products_id=103

it is slightly cheaper, and i think it is made primarily for home theater. Ive been emailing one of the designers back and forth and he says it can reach down to around the 16hz area at 90db. I must admit im all about the rumble and SPL below 20hz.

If this sub didnt exist i would buy the hsu in a heartbeat. My main dilemma right now is the hsu has satin black, while the elemental subs have truck bed coating finish that just looks... well... less then pretty

one last question.. does the max extension option add anything to shipping time??

[BradJudy]

while the elemental subs have truck bed coating finish that just looks... well... [i]less then pretty


Hey, some of us have Hsu's that look like that. :)

[dferrey]

ill be honest, i am swaying towards this:
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=2_41&products_id=103

You may want to consider waiting until you get feedback from people who've actually listened to the subs or better yet some neutral reviews.

[cschang]

ehh i guess if i didnt get the maximum extension it would only be $573 after tax and shipping for the STF3 (jfields didnt get it for the stf2 not really sure if they will do it for STF3)

peter, how long does it usually take you guys to ship from san diego to san jose?

ill be honest, i am swaying towards this:
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=2_41&products_id=103

it is slightly cheaper, and i think it is made primarily for home theater. Ive been emailing one of the designers back and forth and he says it can reach down to around the 16hz area at 90db. I must admit im all about the rumble and SPL below 20hz.

If this sub didnt exist i would buy the hsu in a heartbeat. My main dilemma right now is the hsu has satin black, while the elemental subs have truck bed coating finish that just looks... well... less then pretty

one last question.. does the max extension option add anything to shipping time??
You can not get the STF-2 in low extension tune...it is already tuned that way.

As for the the ED sub....90dB at 16hz.....at what distance and distortion level?

[jfields41394]

I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm a newbie, what is the $50 max extension do to the sub. Does it make a big difference? I just bought the STF-2, and didn't get the $50 Max Extension. Could I get it latter? Thanks for your input. This is my first real sub, i was debating between the STF-2 and the
SVS PB10-NSD, ended up choosing the STF-2.

Thanks,
J

[cschang]

I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm a newbie, what is the $50 max extension do to the sub. Does it make a big difference? I just bought the STF-2, and didn't get the $50 Max Extension. Could I get it latter? Thanks for your input. This is my first real sub, i was debating between the STF-2 and the
SVS PB10-NSD, ended up choosing the STF-2.

Thanks,
J



It is only for the STF-3. The STF-3 in stock form is tuned to about 22hz, in max extension it would be tuned to about 18hz. Essentially what these means is that the sub when tuned to max extension can play a bit deeper if the frequency range, but it will give up a little overall output(not get quite as loud). Most people never play any sub at the loudest it could possibly go if it is an adequate size for the room.

[wid]

To add to what Curtis said, the STF 2 is already in max extention mode. There is no need to do any modd to it.

Looks like Curtis already said this in a previous post.

[Lwang]

ill be honest, i am swaying towards this:
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=2_41&products_id=103

it is slightly cheaper, and i think it is made primarily for home theater. Ive been emailing one of the designers back and forth and he says it can reach down to around the 16hz area at 90db. I must admit im all about the rumble and SPL below 20hz.

[/i]one last question.. does the max extension option add anything to shipping time??

Total Driver Linear Displacement 1994.7cm^3

I think that works out to 27mm peak to peak, slightly more than 1".

[gotchaforce]

You can not get the STF-2 in low extension tune...it is already tuned that way.

As for the the ED sub....90dB at 16hz.....at what distance and distortion level?

who said i was in the market for a STF2?? :confused:

its all between the STF3 in max extension against the eD A5-300.....

i almost want to buy the STF3 because its about 50 pounds lighter than the A5-300!!! Dont wanna break my back carrying this up stairs

[cschang]

who said i was in the market for a STF2?? :confused:

its all between the STF3 in max extension against the eD A5-300.....

i almost want to buy the STF3 because its about 50 pounds lighter than the A5-300!!! Dont wanna break my back carrying this up stairs
I don't see how the eD A5-300 can be tuned to 20hz. It has a 4 inch port that looks to be shorter than the VTF-3MK2's 3" ports.....definitely not longer.

[cschang]

Here is a cutaway of the eD enclosure:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/gallery/111_large.jpg

[Pete_Hsu]

I do like the drawing, Curtis :)

[gotchaforce]

that internal bracing makes me drool i must say..

[cschang]

It bracing definitely looks good...but I still wonder about the tuning, as well as the 90dB at 16hz claim.....like I said before, at what distance and distortion amount.

[gotchaforce]

is it that far fetched???

its a 500w amp paired up with a high excursion driver if im not mistaken.

I mean look at JL audio's recent arrival in the home theater subs, it blows everything else out of the water, maybe the car audio companies just know how to make more oomph? :D

[cschang]

It is not that it is far fetched, it just doesn't mean much without the rest of the info.

And now that I see the port length, it does seem a little odd.

[Pete_Hsu]

No, it is definitely not related to car vs home audio speciality company, but related to good engineering :) On a side note, the STF-3 has a well-braced enclosure too, and the driver is a great driver too. It's tough to make any good comparison without knowing more detailed specifications and with the Elemental Designs subwoofers being brand new.

[gotchaforce]

this decision would be alot easier if i wanted a subwoofer to accomodate some bookshelf speakers since i know the hsu's are great subs for music and HT, but i have floorstanders and they extend more than enough. So this subwoofer is all for home theater, which is why im mainly concerned about how far it can reach below 20hz

soooo confused
:(

edit: wow the shipping times on the elemental designs are pretty brutal right now... i think i would have the sub at my house around 2 weeks from now, which is kinda lame

wouldnt it only take two to three days to get that hsu up to me in san jose from san diego??

i gotta say i am impatient and would love if the subwoofer got here early next week :)

[cschang]

Actually...not San Diego...but Anaheim. :)

There isn't comparative information with the Elemental Designs, and those that are getting them do not have much experience with other subs such as Hsu. Owners will say "it sounds good"...but compared to what?

You know there are not many movies that go below 25 or 30hz. Heck, you don't get much below 30hz in theaters.

[xcjago]

I need a sub that goes down to 13hz, such as my VTF-3 HO. :D

[dsuprenant]

Note that this is our "Pre" holiday sale. Think of it as an inventory clearance sale, and a great chance to get a rock bottom price. As for all of the other questions, all will be clear very soon my friends.

I must say that these prices are quite impressive. With the STF-3 discount, one is getting near VTF-3 Mk2 performance for a price just north of a VTF-2 Mk2, and one can convert their subwoofer to fixed extended bass mode (ie. same 18Hz extension as VTF-3 Mk2) at any time down the road for a small $50 fee if they call us. With the STF-2 discount, one is getting near VTF-2 Mk2 performance for a price just north of an STF-1!

Sincerely,
I intend to buy the STF-3 and I don't see any reference to the $50 "option" to convert to the 18Hz extension. How do I indicate that when buying the STF-3?

[RonL]

I intend to buy the STF-3 and I don't see any reference to the $50 "option" to convert to the 18Hz extension. How do I indicate that when buying the STF-3?I believe you must order over the phone (via 1-800 number) to do that.

[JimLely]

Ive been emailing one of the designers back and forth and he says it can reach down to around the 16hz area at 90db. I must admit im all about the rumble and SPL below 20hz.

Actually 90 dB SPL at 16Hz is at, or slightly above, the threshold of hearing. Doesn't seem that remarkable.

Jim

[xcjago]

True, but most subs under $1000 don't even come close to that. Then again, we have no idea how that measurement was taken; how far? what thd? etc...

[JimLely]

True, but most subs under $1000 don't even come close to that. Then again, we have no idea how that measurement was taken; how far? what thd? etc...


Yes, we have no idea of the methodology used. But given that the methods were sound (no pun intended), if the 90dB @16 Hz is at the threshold, you will barely hear it anyway.


As for subs costing under $1,000, the VTF3-HO will easily exceed 90dB at 16 Hz.

[xcjago]

Of course it will, but how many subs under $1000 can do what the VTF-3 HO can?

[JimLely]

Of course it will, but how many subs under $1000 can do what the VTF-3 HO can?


I assume that's a rhetorical question (LOL).