AV receivers

[LouDog]

Any thoughts out there on good receivers under the $1000 mark? I have been looking at the Sony STR-DA3200ES. What I like is the intergration with other Sony components (if I go with the Sony Bravia XBR KDL-52XBR4 52-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV). What I don't like is networking cabilities.
Then there is the Yamaha RX-V2700 - AV network receiver - 7.1 channel. What I like is well everything except its price.
The last is a JVC RXD702B 7.1 Channel Surround Sound AM/FM Audio Video Receiver with HDMI Switching and Wireless PC Link. This one looks good, but the HDMI switching is a 1.1 version? I am not sure what that means other than everything seems to be 1.3 now? Any help would be appreciated.
louis

[cacihome]

Any thoughts out there on good receivers under the $1000 mark? I have been looking at the Sony STR-DA3200ES. What I like is the intergration with other Sony components (if I go with the Sony Bravia XBR KDL-52XBR4 52-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV). What I don't like is networking cabilities.
Then there is the Yamaha RX-V2700 - AV network receiver - 7.1 channel. What I like is well everything except its price.
The last is a JVC RXD702B 7.1 Channel Surround Sound AM/FM Audio Video Receiver with HDMI Switching and Wireless PC Link. This one looks good, but the HDMI switching is a 1.1 version? I am not sure what that means other than everything seems to be 1.3 now? Any help would be appreciated.
louis

Hi,

The Sony naahhh the good one is pricey too (the 5300ES) is very good but pricey.
The JVC no way!!!!
The Yamahas are good but pricey and that model does not have 1.3HDMI nor the new audio formats found in Blu-rays.
Buy Onkyo brother their new line is a very solid one...
The Onkyo TX-SR605 if you will use an external amp, or the Onkyo 805 if you are going to use it alone...
They have HDMI ver 1.3 and decodes all the new formats...
The 605 is 90wx7 and the 805 is 130wx7, there is also the 875 with 140w and more HDMI outputs and speaker bridging option!!!

[bsoko]

Pioneer is the reciever preffered by most people on these forums.

Bill

[LouDog]

thanks, It is starting to look like the 805!

[majorloser]

I personally like the Yamaha RX-V3800.

But the new Yammies will be out in a couple weeks.
The new RX-V663 7.2 channel receiver looks like it will be a KILLER budget receiver:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300

From some of the early prices, it looks like it will be around $500 :eek:

[bsoko]

I personally like the Yamaha RX-V3800.

But the new Yammies will be out in a couple weeks.
The new RX-V663 7.2 channel receiver looks like it will be a KILLER budget receiver:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300

From some of the early prices, it looks like it will be around $500 :eek:

Yes, alot of the manufacturers are bringing out good HD receivers near 600 or less. If a person can wait until the new model year for this stuff, they can get some good deals on the older models that will provide what they need.

Bill

[majorloser]

Yes, alot of the manufacturers are bringing out good HD receivers near 600 or less. If a person can wait until the new model year for this stuff, they can get some good deals on the older models that will provide what they need.

Bill

The Yammies will be out in the next couple weeks. Lot a long wait at all. :cool:

[jeremyfla]

buy a used Rotel or Arcam receiver......can't beat em!

[weverb]

I can hear the gloves starting to come off....

so I will chime in. Buy a NAD receiver....:p

[LouDog]

Funny, I am a sales manager @ a major Mazda Dealership and I just sold a CX-9 to some guy that works at Yamaha. He can get me his emp. discount. So my next question is RX-V3800 and RX-V1800 what are the major differences?
Louis

[J0e3gan]

...$699 shipped from Amazon a couple weeks ago, which looks unchanged. (I found a couple price matches, but didn't care since I buy from Amazon so much.) Since I've listened to plenty of Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer, and H/K receivers and felt I'd be nearly as happy with any of them SQ-wise, I focused entirely on features - for three crazy nights of research. :-) In the end, nothing else I found came close to the Onkyo's value:

3 HDMI 1.3 inputs
60 amps instantaneous current capability (nearly or more than double everything else I considered)
full support for new Dolby and DTS digital audio streams (output by something like the Panasonic DMP-BD30)
THX Ultra2 certification - dream on elsewhere!


I've had the TX-SR805(S) for a couple weeks now, displacing the lower-power H/K 5.1 receiver that's moving to my secondary HT in my bedroom. Bottom line, I'm very, very pleased with it - in surround modes, two-channel stereo, across-the-board; and I paid a lot less than $1,000. HTH.

Joe

[LouDog]

Are you using the Video upconverting, that is my only problem with the Onkyo, all the reviews I have read say that the Onlyo down converts from 1080 to 720?
Louis

[mojave]

Only the Onkyo 875 or 905 upconvert to 1080p. However, the other models will pass through whatever signal you send it. If you have 1080p from your DVD player or Blu-ray Player, these will pass through to your TV. It only downconverts when you change signal type. For example, 1080 component will be downconverted to 720p HDMI.

There are three places upconversion can take place: in your source, at the receiver, and on your TV. If your source or your TV offers upconversion, then you really don't need it on your receiver, too.

[LouDog]

So if I am using a PS3 Blue Ray player, and it goes thru my AV unit, it will not down convert it, since the original signal is already 1080?
Louis

[mojave]

So if I am using a PS3 Blue Ray player, and it goes thru my AV unit, it will not down convert it, since the original signal is already 1080?
Louis
Correct.

Here is an Onkyo TX-SR705 Faq (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808) that is very helpful for evaluating the Onkyo receivers.

[LouDog]

Thank you everyone for helping me. So I think I have narrowed it down to the Onkyo SR-805 ($749 on Amazon) or the Yamaha RX-V2700 ($799 on Amazon). Anyone have any idea of which way I should go?
Louis

[bsoko]

Pioneer '92 thru '94 (as your budget permits), also so to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=845293 for info on the Pioneer.

Bill

[cantzme78]

You should take a look at Marantz receiver's. I have the 7002 and am enjoying it very much! I also have owned the Pioneer 94 and Onkyo 805 took both back!!! They just did not fulfill the sound requirements that I was expecting! So think outside the box and go for it!!;)

[majorloser]

Thank you everyone for helping me. So I think I have narrowed it down to the Onkyo SR-805 ($749 on Amazon) or the Yamaha RX-V2700 ($799 on Amazon). Anyone have any idea of which way I should go?
Louis

The Yamaha RX-V2700 does not decode Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus or DTS Master Audio. It is also only HDMI 1.2.

That Yamaha model is not comparable to the Onkyo.

The Onkyo TX-SR805 will upconvert composite video, S-video and component video to HDMI at 720p. It is also HDMI 1.3a.

The Yamaha RX-V3800 or the new RX-V863 would be better comparisons to the Onkyo TX-SR805.

The Marantz SR7002 would also be a good comparison as it has very similar features, including THX Select2.

[rk772]

question on the Onkyo 705. I understand how the 1080p passthrough works for the video. Doesn't the audio need to be converted? I was under the impression that the audio from my Blue Ray player would come through the same HDMI cable or do you need to run the audio through a seperate source from the Blue Ray.
Sorry about asking such a basic question but I'm new to HT.

[mojave]

question on the Onkyo 705. I understand how the 1080p passthrough works for the video. Doesn't the audio need to be converted? I was under the impression that the audio from my Blue Ray player would come through the same HDMI cable or do you need to run the audio through a seperate source from the Blue Ray.
Sorry about asking such a basic question but I'm new to HT.
You only need to connect the HDMI cable from the Bluray player to the Onkyo TX-SR705 for both video and audio. No separate connection is necessary. By the way, the price on the 705 has come down this week on Amazon from $630 to $609 to $585 with free shipping.

[tractng]

Only the Onkyo 875 or 905 upconvert to 1080p. However, the other models will pass through whatever signal you send it. If you have 1080p from your DVD player or Blu-ray Player, these will pass through to your TV. It only downconverts when you change signal type. For example, 1080 component will be downconverted to 720p HDMI.

There are three places upconversion can take place: in your source, at the receiver, and on your TV. If your source or your TV offers upconversion, then you really don't need it on your receiver, too.

Quick question here. Lets say I have an oppo 970 (1080i) connected to the sr805 and then goes to the lcd sony (1080p). All of these are connected via hdmi. What picture would I have? It will be 1080i?


Tony

[cacihome]

Quick question here. Lets say I have an oppo 970 (1080i) connected to the sr805 and then goes to the lcd sony (1080p). All of these are connected via hdmi. What picture would I have? It will be 1080i?


Tony

Technically 1080i, because the simulation of 1080p (upconversion to 1080p the Onkyo does) is never as good as a real 1080p native video resolution than lets say a Bluray...