Turbo?

[pfowler]

I've had a VTF3-Mk 3 for a little over a year now. Overall, it's a high quality sub that goes deep and clean. The one thing that in my room (about 1700 cubic feet) is a little elusive is mid-bass punch. You know, that kick in your chest feeling.

Anyhoo, I know that the MBM is designed for this very purpose (I think), but I have been looking at adding a turbo since I got the sub. Does anyone have any insight as to the benefits of adding the turbo to this sub, taking into consideration the size of my room and what I feel may be a little lacking at the moment? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[n737nc]

MBM all the way!
Once you get it and hook it up, you'll have no regrets :D

I don't believe the Turbo will give you what you're wanting.

Nick

[cacihome]

MBM

[SAHSU]

I had the same feelings and asked the same questions you did very recently about my vtf3-mk3. And the answer was a resounding "the turbo won't do what you want". The deal with the turbo (and anyone should feel free to let me know if i'm wrong here..i'm still learning) is it allows the sub to go louder, at lower frequencies w/o the "chuffing" that would be associated with plugging a port and lowering the tuning of your sub. Unfortunately, the more frequencies you try to get one driver to cover at high volume, the less able it will be to keep up. So, while the turbo will give you cleaner bass at under 20hz range, it will limit the driver's effectiveness over the higher ranges (50-100 say) when trying to play them at the same time (during an agressive song or movie soundtrack). And this "midbass" region is where the "slam" is felt. Best bets for that region is, add another sub, replace your current sub with a beefier one, or get an MBM to cover the upper range, to free your vtf to more effectively focus on the lower.

[pfowler]

I had the same feelings and asked the same questions you did very recently about my vtf3-mk3. And the answer was a resounding "the turbo won't do what you want". The deal with the turbo (and anyone should feel free to let me know if i'm wrong here..i'm still learning) is it allows the sub to go louder, at lower frequencies w/o the "chuffing" that would be associated with plugging a port and lowering the tuning of your sub. Unfortunately, the more frequencies you try to get one driver to cover at high volume, the less able it will be to keep up. So, while the turbo will give you cleaner bass at under 20hz range, it will limit the driver's effectiveness over the higher ranges (50-100 say) when trying to play them at the same time (during an agressive song or movie soundtrack). And this "midbass" region is where the "slam" is felt. Best bets for that region is, add another sub, replace your current sub with a beefier one, or get an MBM to cover the upper range, to free your vtf to more effectively focus on the lower.
Thanks for the advice. Now, who out there has a gently-used MBM for sale?

[thsmith]

I've had a VTF3-Mk 3 for a little over a year now. Overall, it's a high quality sub that goes deep and clean. The one thing that in my room (about 1700 cubic feet) is a little elusive is mid-bass punch. You know, that kick in your chest feeling.

Anyhoo, I know that the MBM is designed for this very purpose (I think), but I have been looking at adding a turbo since I got the sub. Does anyone have any insight as to the benefits of adding the turbo to this sub, taking into consideration the size of my room and what I feel may be a little lacking at the moment? Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I have a 3 3 Turbo and 2 MBMs. Right now I am running just the 3 3 while I learn REW.

You might want to invest in the 4-8 hours it takes to learn REW before going out and spending money for stuff that may or may not help.

BTW, my room is 4200cf and 3 3 is plenty powerful. And no I am not selling my MBMs just yet.

[pfowler]

I have a 3 3 Turbo and 2 MBMs. Right now I am running just the 3 3 while I learn REW.

You might want to invest in the 4-8 hours it takes to learn REW before going out and spending money for stuff that may or may not help.

BTW, my room is 4200cf and 3 3 is plenty powerful. And no I am not selling my MBMs just yet.
Thanks for the tip. I'm not familiar with that product but I'll look into it.

FYI - My room is only about 1700 cubic feet. I have not done much EQ. Moving the sub is not really an option for me at this point. I have looked a little into acoustic treatments, but have not pulled the trigger on anything.

[cacihome]

I had the same feelings and asked the same questions you did very recently about my vtf3-mk3. And the answer was a resounding "the turbo won't do what you want". The deal with the turbo (and anyone should feel free to let me know if i'm wrong here..i'm still learning) is it allows the sub to go louder, at lower frequencies w/o the "chuffing" that would be associated with plugging a port and lowering the tuning of your sub. Unfortunately, the more frequencies you try to get one driver to cover at high volume, the less able it will be to keep up. So, while the turbo will give you cleaner bass at under 20hz range, it will limit the driver's effectiveness over the higher ranges (50-100 say) when trying to play them at the same time (during an agressive song or movie soundtrack). And this "midbass" region is where the "slam" is felt. Best bets for that region is, add another sub, replace your current sub with a beefier one, or get an MBM to cover the upper range, to free your vtf to more effectively focus on the lower.

+1

[goatmother]

If anything the Turbo makes it feel like I have less mid bass punch when compared to using it without the turbo (my room accoustics, and positioning of course.. your results may vary)